sneak peek at my 1100XX conversion

cbr900racer77 · 01-31-2010, 09:45 PM

I just started this afternoon with empty case and head. I think it's going to be easier than I thought. I can't wait to throw all that torque to the track in my lightweight RR frame.

Basspiece919 · 01-31-2010, 10:09 PM

I am so excited for this project!!!

Byrdman · 02-01-2010, 05:07 AM

oooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhh........................ .That should be fun.

Also, SWING ON OVER and say hello.

omaha_919 · 02-01-2010, 06:20 AM

looks like a fun project!!

keep the pics comin'!!!

Bigdaa · 02-01-2010, 06:41 AM

"You Sir are a mad-dog. I want to party with you! Remember when you tried to make it with that cow?"

cbr900racer77 · 02-01-2010, 04:26 PM

I had to make a spacer for lower rear mount before adjuster would lock motor in frame. If I can tomorrow, I'll try and get spacer in there and lock motor so it won't move if I remove wood from underneath. I need to get it off the stand to make sure oil pan is lined up with floor (or close anyways). Then I can proceed with it.

brian · 02-01-2010, 04:32 PM

Man that's gonna be coooooool

Bigdaa · 02-01-2010, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by brian

Man that's gonna be coooooool

I second this if you actually pull it off.

cbr900racer77 · 02-01-2010, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigdaa

I second this if you actually pull it off.

Whaddaya mean "IF"

I've already sold almost all of my 900 performance stuff. It's this setup or no racing for me (and that just isn't an option). It'll get done one way or another. Stay tuned.

cbr900racer77 · 02-03-2010, 10:58 AM

Rear mounts are in place and torqued down. I bolted exhaust on just to check alignment....the pics don't do it justice, it's perfect

omaha_919 · 02-03-2010, 11:21 AM

Sha-wiiiiiiing! doi-yoi-yoi-yoing.

sorry, wood

EDIT:
geeeze, can't even say the "m" word if it's used in a context not even remotely related to "a certain other site"

M-o-t-o -wood... THERE... BITE ME!!!

cmurphy84 · 02-03-2010, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by omaha_919

Sha-wiiiiiiing! doi-yoi-yoi-yoing.

sorry, wood

EDIT:
geeeze, can't even say the "m" word if it's used in a context not even remotely related to "a certain other site"

M-o-t-o -wood... THERE... BITE ME!!!

Ever stand on the rear tire while hanging onto the grab rail? Then start going at it with your exhaust?

Me neither...

omaha_919 · 02-03-2010, 11:48 AM

Bigdaa · 02-03-2010, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbr900racer77

Whaddaya mean "IF"

I've already sold almost all of my 900 performance stuff. It's this setup or no racing for me (and that just isn't an option). It'll get done one way or another. Stay tuned.

OK, OK, I tip my hat and anxiously await progress reports leading to completion!

brian · 02-03-2010, 06:33 PM

I can't wait to see it, I accually wanted to get a XX peel the plastics off slap some protapers on it and a shorter swing arm. I had a 2002 and that motor is so smooth you don't realize how much power you're putting down. Loved the motor, liked the bike but it felt a little long and a touch too heavy and I'm about 40lbs heavy so that's like another person...(Chica) but man I sure did love that power plant!

Get it together man!

cbr900racer77 · 02-03-2010, 07:16 PM

Thanks for that info Brian. I was wondering how the power was on stock BB motor. And yes BB's are long. That's why stock airbox wouldn't go on my project (RR frame is MUCH shorter). I made last 2 motor mounts at work tonight and will install tomorrow. That should complete mounting it. wiring, cooling, resizing my FCR's, and she's ready to kick butt.

Ripper · 02-04-2010, 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmurphy84

Ever stand on the rear tire while hanging onto the grab rail? Then start going at it with your exhaust?

Me neither...

Me either!!!

Byrdman · 02-04-2010, 06:18 AM

Are you going to leave the balancers in? Turbo?

The XX engine is incredible, it's no Busa, but she's plenty mean.

I have an 02 with a shift kit, PCIII, and an Akra Sport pipe. Really woke up the stock engine.

cbr900racer77 · 02-04-2010, 06:33 AM

I'm lucky enough to have a Bird guru for a best friend. His was 1195 with 2mil stroke, head, cams, sidewinder, NOS (2 stages). It was a beast! He bought a turbo last year and is totally redoing it (AMA Prostreet). Turbo is 500 horse capable. Anyways..for starters, he is helping me remove balancers. I'm going to stick 1195 kit in it, Dyna 2000 and that's probably it. I've been inside an RR engine so many times I've lost track (been wrenching for couple decades now). I'm kinda excited to work on something new. As for Busas

...That's why I love 1/8th mile dragracing. Catch a good light, lay a good 60ft and even modded Busas couldn't run down my 945 RR even on motor. They are really gonna have hell with this thing

Byrdman · 02-04-2010, 11:52 AM

Who's your buddy? I'm pretty close with three or four Bird drag racers and a bunch of other guys with turbo Birds.

I love the Busa's engine design with the cylinders separated from the upper case but the bikes are so damn ugly.

cbr900racer77 · 02-04-2010, 10:56 PM

His real name is James Simmons. He mainly hangs out at Psychobike.com, his username is dragracer08. If you know him, DO NOT even mention that I said anything about that turbo build. He wants it totally on the down low and would be very upset at me for mentioning it.

cmurphy84 · 02-05-2010, 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbr900racer77

His real name is James Simmons. He mainly hangs out at Psychobike.com, his username is dragracer08. If you know him, DO NOT even mention that I said anything about that turbo build. He wants it totally on the down low and would be very upset at me for mentioning it.

You've mentioned his name, blackbird, 1100xx, turbo, and drag racing all in the same thread. If anybody hits google looking, they will find this information.

Just sayin'...

cbr900racer77 · 02-05-2010, 05:54 AM

it's called "fingers working before brain does". Apparently I'm suffering from it LOL

cmurphy84 · 02-05-2010, 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbr900racer77

it's called "fingers working before brain does". Apparently I'm suffering from it LOL

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Don't worry. My wife does it all the time.

"She told me not to tell anybody, but................."

cbr900racer77 · 02-05-2010, 10:12 AM

I don't think he would mind much. I've heard him mention to other people about his "build" on psychobike so I'm probably in the clear.

mdtoney · 02-05-2010, 02:50 PM

Byrdman, that's the meanest looking XX I've ever seen!!

Byrdman · 02-05-2010, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbr900racer77

His real name is James Simmons. He mainly hangs out at Psychobike.com, his username is dragracer08. If you know him, DO NOT even mention that I said anything about that turbo build. He wants it totally on the down low and would be very upset at me for mentioning it.

Mumms the word........ I hang over on Psychobike occasionally and know Dean Pipes (EliXXir) as well as a few other force-fed XX owners. Fun stuff.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdtoney

Byrdman, that's the meanest looking XX I've ever seen!!

Thanks brutha, you should ride it!

It's got Carrozerria forged wheels and carbon fiber rotor carriers so up front she weighs nothing!

voodooridr · 02-05-2010, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdtoney

Byrdman, that's the meanest looking XX I've ever seen!!

Agreed, if they built them like that from the factory I bet they would've sold more of them

UJM · 02-05-2010, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ripper

Me either!!!

Uh, that picture looks a little, uh, well -

I hope you're not saying anything like "squeal like a tire" at that moment!

cbr900racer77 · 02-05-2010, 07:58 PM

I thought that username looked familiar! I hang out there too with same name minus the "77".

cbr900racer77 · 02-08-2010, 11:23 AM

Mock engine is mounted. Dang that was easy! I'm going to run stock RR radiator without fan. It's drag only so fan shouldn't be an issue. If it does need it, I have an idea for that, too. Anyways, that's the progress for now. I primarily babysit my now 6 month old while wife sleeps on weekends. I'll be back out there this week with more progress. I made mounts out of steel but will get them made at machine shop out of aluminum for final mount. It's a little close on the sides, but not bad. Also, the brace between the frame rails will have to be cut out to clear FCR's I'm mounting on it. I got a buddy with a turbo RR that has his cut and he has no frame problems so I should be good.

cbr900racer77 · 02-13-2010, 06:53 PM

Mock motor out and real one in and bolted up. Bolted up oil cooler and got it where I want it. Next step is to remove motor and wait til I can get piston kit for it (also remove balancers while it's down).

adamjayp · 02-13-2010, 08:39 PM

Looking good! Keep the pics coming!

Byrdman · 02-15-2010, 05:13 AM

Very cool. Can't wait to see her up and running.

cbr900racer77 · 02-15-2010, 09:05 AM

Instead of cutting the brace, I rotated engine back a few more degrees. That will give me more room for radiator and carbs. I was going to modify the FCR's from my 900 but found out nobody sells throttle shafts for them anymore. So...looks like I'm forking over 1249 bucks for a new set for the XX motor. Also trying to get 1195 kit for it so when I split the cases to remove the balancers I can install the kit at same time. Worst case scenario, I'll have to race it stock bore for a while. Even stock, it should still be plenty potent.

Byrdman · 02-15-2010, 03:44 PM

Damn, new carbies? Have you checked Fleabay for a set?

How about searching over at CBR1100XX.org? Want me to ask around?

cbr900racer77 · 02-15-2010, 07:23 PM

I check ebay regularly. And yeah, ask around please! They would have to be in mint showroom condition (I'm leary of buying used carbs, especially FCR's). I found a set but had some slight damage and were overpriced (in my opinion). Also keep yer ear to the ground for used 1195 kit also.

mdtoney · 02-16-2010, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbr900racer77

Also trying to get 1195 kit for it.

Woohoo! Best of luck in your search for carbs and big-bore kit. I'm excited to see how this project turns out!

opper · 02-16-2010, 09:46 AM

Why dont you find a set of CBR1100xx injection bodies and FI it using the megasquirt box?
much more control than carbs and most of the stuff is available as its was FI on newer models

I started as a complete newbie and gained from 102-130 rwHP abd 89-112Nm in torque and a Lunatic Roll-On action from tickover - doing it on an aircooled FJ1200 - with absolutely NO bolton parts

just my idea of going another (expensive) set of Carbs

Lars

cbr900racer77 · 02-16-2010, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by opper

Why dont you find a set of CBR1100xx injection bodies and FI it using the megasquirt box?
much more control than carbs and most of the stuff is available as its was FI on newer models

I started as a complete newbie and gained from 102-130 rwHP abd 89-112Nm in torque and a Lunatic Roll-On action from tickover - doing it on an aircooled FJ1200 - with absolutely NO bolton parts

just my idea of going another (expensive) set of Carbs

Lars

I honestly considered that at the start. I'd have to run airbox with the FI and there is VERY limited space under the tank. (would pretty much have to make airbox from scratch). Another reason is I just can't give up my flatslides. I doubt I'm giving up any hp to FI with them (stock CV carbs I'd agree with you). As for control, they are hard to beat as well. Every aspect of them is adjustable (which makes them such a pain in the ass to tune). I do appreciate the opinions however, keep them coming.

02-03-2010, 11:21 AM	#11
omaha_919 snow hater Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 1,780 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	Sha-wiiiiiiing! doi-yoi-yoi-yoing. sorry, wood EDIT: geeeze, can't even say the "m" word if it's used in a context not even remotely related to "a certain other site" M-o-t-o -wood... THERE... BITE ME!!! Last edited by omaha_919; 02-03-2010 at 11:24 AM.

02-04-2010, 06:33 AM	#19
cbr900racer77 Tirone Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: middle TN Posts: 94	I'm lucky enough to have a Bird guru for a best friend. His was 1195 with 2mil stroke, head, cams, sidewinder, NOS (2 stages). It was a beast! He bought a turbo last year and is totally redoing it (AMA Prostreet). Turbo is 500 horse capable. Anyways..for starters, he is helping me remove balancers. I'm going to stick 1195 kit in it, Dyna 2000 and that's probably it. I've been inside an RR engine so many times I've lost track (been wrenching for couple decades now). I'm kinda excited to work on something new. As for Busas...That's why I love 1/8th mile dragracing. Catch a good light, lay a good 60ft and even modded Busas couldn't run down my 945 RR even on motor. They are really gonna have hell with this thing

02-16-2010, 09:46 AM	#39
opper Brutale Hornet Builder Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Denmark Posts: 42	FI and megasquirt Why dont you find a set of CBR1100xx injection bodies and FI it using the megasquirt box? much more control than carbs and most of the stuff is available as its was FI on newer models I started as a complete newbie and gained from 102-130 rwHP abd 89-112Nm in torque and a Lunatic Roll-On action from tickover - doing it on an aircooled FJ1200 - with absolutely NO bolton parts just my idea of going another (expensive) set of Carbs Lars

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01-31-2010, 10:09 PM	#2
Basspiece919 I killed Barton664 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Home is Warrenton VA, School is JMU. Posts: 1,655 Blog Entries: 1 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	I am so excited for this project!!!

02-01-2010, 05:07 AM	#3
Byrdman Fat guy on a little bike! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Chicagoland, Illinois Posts: 265	oooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhh........................ .That should be fun. Also, SWING ON OVER and say hello.

02-01-2010, 06:20 AM	#4
omaha_919 snow hater Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 1,780 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	looks like a fun project!! keep the pics comin'!!!

02-01-2010, 06:41 AM	#5
Bigdaa Harry says "Fuck PC!" Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Coming to you LIVE from Belahalababa Posts: 10,571	"You Sir are a mad-dog. I want to party with you! Remember when you tried to make it with that cow?"

02-01-2010, 04:26 PM	#6
cbr900racer77 Tirone Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: middle TN Posts: 94	I had to make a spacer for lower rear mount before adjuster would lock motor in frame. If I can tomorrow, I'll try and get spacer in there and lock motor so it won't move if I remove wood from underneath. I need to get it off the stand to make sure oil pan is lined up with floor (or close anyways). Then I can proceed with it.

02-01-2010, 04:32 PM	#7
brian '03 919 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: FL Posts: 683	Man that's gonna be coooooool

02-03-2010, 11:48 AM	#13
omaha_919 snow hater Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 1,780 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1

02-03-2010, 06:33 PM	#15
brian '03 919 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: FL Posts: 683	I can't wait to see it, I accually wanted to get a XX peel the plastics off slap some protapers on it and a shorter swing arm. I had a 2002 and that motor is so smooth you don't realize how much power you're putting down. Loved the motor, liked the bike but it felt a little long and a touch too heavy and I'm about 40lbs heavy so that's like another person...(Chica) but man I sure did love that power plant! Get it together man!

02-03-2010, 07:16 PM	#16
cbr900racer77 Tirone Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: middle TN Posts: 94	Thanks for that info Brian. I was wondering how the power was on stock BB motor. And yes BB's are long. That's why stock airbox wouldn't go on my project (RR frame is MUCH shorter). I made last 2 motor mounts at work tonight and will install tomorrow. That should complete mounting it. wiring, cooling, resizing my FCR's, and she's ready to kick butt.

02-04-2010, 06:18 AM	#18
Byrdman Fat guy on a little bike! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Chicagoland, Illinois Posts: 265	Are you going to leave the balancers in? Turbo? The XX engine is incredible, it's no Busa, but she's plenty mean. I have an 02 with a shift kit, PCIII, and an Akra Sport pipe. Really woke up the stock engine.

02-04-2010, 11:52 AM	#20
Byrdman Fat guy on a little bike! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Chicagoland, Illinois Posts: 265	Who's your buddy? I'm pretty close with three or four Bird drag racers and a bunch of other guys with turbo Birds. I love the Busa's engine design with the cylinders separated from the upper case but the bikes are so damn ugly.

02-04-2010, 10:56 PM	#21
cbr900racer77 Tirone Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: middle TN Posts: 94	His real name is James Simmons. He mainly hangs out at Psychobike.com, his username is dragracer08. If you know him, DO NOT even mention that I said anything about that turbo build. He wants it totally on the down low and would be very upset at me for mentioning it.

02-05-2010, 05:54 AM	#23
cbr900racer77 Tirone Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: middle TN Posts: 94	it's called "fingers working before brain does". Apparently I'm suffering from it LOL

02-05-2010, 10:12 AM	#25
cbr900racer77 Tirone Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: middle TN Posts: 94	I don't think he would mind much. I've heard him mention to other people about his "build" on psychobike so I'm probably in the clear.

02-05-2010, 02:50 PM	#26
mdtoney The 919 project continues Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,321 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 2	Byrdman, that's the meanest looking XX I've ever seen!!

02-05-2010, 07:58 PM	#30
cbr900racer77 Tirone Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: middle TN Posts: 94	I thought that username looked familiar! I hang out there too with same name minus the "77".

02-13-2010, 08:39 PM	#33
adamjayp So, you're a human... Join Date: May 2008 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 459 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	Looking good! Keep the pics coming!

02-15-2010, 05:13 AM	#34
Byrdman Fat guy on a little bike! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Chicagoland, Illinois Posts: 265	Very cool. Can't wait to see her up and running.

02-15-2010, 09:05 AM	#35
cbr900racer77 Tirone Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: middle TN Posts: 94	Instead of cutting the brace, I rotated engine back a few more degrees. That will give me more room for radiator and carbs. I was going to modify the FCR's from my 900 but found out nobody sells throttle shafts for them anymore. So...looks like I'm forking over 1249 bucks for a new set for the XX motor. Also trying to get 1195 kit for it so when I split the cases to remove the balancers I can install the kit at same time. Worst case scenario, I'll have to race it stock bore for a while. Even stock, it should still be plenty potent.

02-15-2010, 03:44 PM	#36
Byrdman Fat guy on a little bike! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Chicagoland, Illinois Posts: 265	Damn, new carbies? Have you checked Fleabay for a set? How about searching over at CBR1100XX.org? Want me to ask around?

02-15-2010, 07:23 PM	#37
cbr900racer77 Tirone Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: middle TN Posts: 94	I check ebay regularly. And yeah, ask around please! They would have to be in mint showroom condition (I'm leary of buying used carbs, especially FCR's). I found a set but had some slight damage and were overpriced (in my opinion). Also keep yer ear to the ground for used 1195 kit also.